A Chain of Gods

In the book The New Mormon Challenge, Paul Copan and William Lane Craig quote Mormon theologian David H. Bailey as follows:

“In that case God is not the being who crafted the universe at the big bang. If there is such a being, it is a deity beyond him.” In this breathtaking affirmation, Bailey states that God – that is, the typical Mormon God (Elohim) described by Joseph Smith and worshipped by million of Mormons – is not truly God. Rather, the true God is beyond him; the true God is the Creator of the universe ex nihilo. Bailey hastens to add that “Mormon theology, of course, allows the possibility of a hierarchy of deities (D&C 121:28).”

The quote is from Bailey’s essay “Scientific Foundations of Mormon Theology.”

8 thoughts on “A Chain of Gods”

  1. Indeed the Morman doctrine of GOD, from the Incarnation to the Trinity of God, is simply not the biblical revelation or doctrine of God!

    Note, I have myself, under one cover or binding the Morman Bible: KJV – Authorized King James Version, With Explanatory Notes And Cross References To The Standard Works Of The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints. (Published By The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints, Salt Lake City, Utah.) With also: The Book Of Morman, Another Testament of Jesus Christ. The Doctrine And Covenants of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. And The Pearl Of Great Price.

    I got this Morman work a few years ago when my wife and I spent the summer in St. George Utah. My copy is leather bound and is actually printed in Great Britain. I am obviously not a Morman, but I had a good American friend I served with in Vietnam (1968) who was, when I was attached as a 19 year old Royal Marine, to the American 3rd Force Recon Co. During our visit I had wanted to learn and seek to understand Mormanism, etc. My friend (a few years older than I am) has passed-away since or recently.

    Note, I do not consider classic Mormanism to be a part of Biblical/Doctrinal Christianity, but I do believe it possible (by the Grace of God) for a Morman to come to the saving Person and Work of Christ. And note, my American friend went from classic Mormanism to the Reformed or Reorganized Morman Church (RLDS), in or out of Missouri, USA.

    1. I’ve spent a lot of time amongst Mormons and consider many of them friends. I have several writings on the subject in the works. I would like to write a Christian commentary on the Book of Mormon.

      1. Yes, though I am a Brit I too have read the Book of Morman, I did this in an apologetic manner. I have found the history of the Mormans to be very interesting, and certainly part of American history. Sadly however, their doctrine of the Incarnation, as too the whole doctrine of God is simply not Judeo or Christian, as you have given in this specific quote above. Thankfully however, the “Incarnation” of Christ Jesus Himself, moves beyond our mere human or mental understanding of it, though we should bow our knee spiritually & existentially to it certainly!

        Wow, a Christian commentary on the Book of Morman would be quite an effort, but I feel greatly needed and I hope appreciated! 🙂

  2. Yes, it is certainly an American document. I hope I can do the commentary, although I fear it will take years of effort.

  3. I have always tried to mention this to Mormon missionaries and they get uneasy with the thought of eternally regressive successions of Gods while having no clue who the greatest and first of all such beings might be.

    1. Rick: I chatted with some Morman missionaries myself in St. George, Utah. And they simply don’t have a clue to the Judeo/Jewish and real OT doctrine of God! We should press as did Jesus said: “But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the “true worshipers” will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. God is spirit, and those who worship him MUST worship in spirit and truth.” (John 4:23-24, note too verses 21-22…the GOD of salvation is Jewish!) I think too of 2 Cor. 11: 3-4! A “different spirit”, a “different gospel”, “another Jesus”!

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