State vs. family

In a prescient statement, Frederick Engels wrote:

With the transfer of the means of production into common ownership, the single family ceases to be the economic unit of society. Private housekeeping is transformed into a social industry. The care and education of the children becomes a public affair; society looks after all children alike, whether they are legitimate or not. This removes all the anxiety about the “consequences” which today is the most essential social-moral as well as economic-factor that prevents a girl from giving herself completely to the man she loves. Will not that suffice to bring about the gradual growth of unconstrained sexual intercourse and with it a more tolerant public opinion in regard to a maiden’s honor and a woman’s shame? And, finally, have we not seen that in the modern world monogamy and prostitution are indeed contradictions, but inseparable contradictions, poles of the same state of society? Can prostitution disappear without dragging monogamy with it into the abyss?

Rushdoony comments on this and says that “The Marxist wants to “emancipate” woman by making her an industrial worker…The family is to all practical intent abolished whenever the state determines the education, vocation, religion, and the discipline of the child…In all modern societies, the transfer of authority from the family to the state has been accomplished in varying degrees.

4 thoughts on “State vs. family”

  1. Joel,

    Keep this blog going; there are those of us out here who do read with interest and thought. ‘Facebook and ‘Twitter’ are not the be all and end all; with Twitter, one is so bound by character limitation that no truly meaningful conversation and interaction is possible. when all the world is capable of doing is commenting and writing – and taking in – the written word in 140 character chunks, I fear this world is looking terrifyingly like the Orwellian world (though Huxley’s ‘Brave new world’ far more accurately describes this world (especially this Western world) in which you and I live (australia in my case). Numb the mind; that’s the ticket; but i’ll climb down from my soapbox now.

    Keep up the good work.

    PS: by the way, your article on intentional Anglican community is profound and thought provoking – and increasingly necesary – perhaps even for the survival of the WWAC itself.

    1. Sarah, thanks for your very encouraging words. I don’t intend to stop blogging, I just think the rest of the world might do so! I’ll be the last one standing.

      I’m with you on Brave New World. We are in that world for sure. I think there will eventually be a collapse of the central state, followed by a time of troubles and then a new configuration on the other side, but I’m no prophet.

      Glad you liked the community article, I wish I could live it. It requires a group of people who want to live it. I participate on another blog dedicated to the subject, it’s called The Anglican Community Project. I assume you are Anglican?

  2. Joel,

    I am Anglican. Australian, to be exact. I am blessed to live in the Sydney diocese and, although it has its problems, it is the last holdout in my nation concerning taking the Bible seriously as the central focus of faith (corporate and personal); and, to a much greater extent than much of the Western WWAC) the foundational guide for all of life. the West is paralyzed with fear concerning faith and daily life being as one; forgetting so quickly the way faith, for the better part of the past 2,000 years has informed life, not only with those of faith, but as the ‘metanarrative of wider society. In a desperate bid to cling onto moral relativism and ‘freedom’ (or should that be, licence), any murmur of faith informing the way in which we live our lives concerning Holy Scripture is seen as dangerous and even anti democracy.

    In Australia, folk like we Sydney Anglicans are seen as hate-filled bigots; little do those who throw those allegations our way realize they are acting with the very self same hate we are accused of. You may be able to correct me on this, but the UN Charter on the rights of the child forbids childhood religious instruction to be part of family life; especially if children become reluctant (many a Godly adult went through this phase as a child or teen, finding their way back to the faith that was instilled in their formative years by dedicated, God-honouring parents).

    From what I have understand, a faithful Sydney Anglican minister working in a bible believing Anglican church in Canada is facing prosecution for preaching the truth on sensitive issues; the Canadian authorities and wider church circles are trying to drive him from the parish he has been appointed to. It is frightening and very sad. In some states of the US, home church and church-based gatherings in persons’ homes such as Bible study is banned or so heavily regulated it may as well be; Connecticut is one state in which this has already happened; Missouri is another state in which it is currently on the table. in the UK, the government is trying to ban home education (currently, 2.5 million American children are home educated from all walks of life and faith backgrounds) stating home education is only used by parents who want to mistreat their children without fear of reprisal. I believe govt. invasion of the religious educational sphere will only increase s they gain ever expanding powers to dictate what is and is not taught. We are approaching a ‘tipping point’ where it is going to become ever more difficult to practice traditional Christianity of any description, be it Anglican, Catholic, Orthodox, or any number of additional denominations. The work of your fellow blogger on Anglican community is Inspiring! Our Heavenly Father is raising up His faithful, filled with vision and Godly passion to see the unsullied faith preserved for the long-term future. As the world sinks ever more deeply into the howling abyss of open hostility to serious Christianity and the ‘bread and circuses’ mentality of moral relativism, persons will be looking for alternatives with Godly purpose, as the hippies looked for alternatives to the Military Industrial Complex during the 60’s and 70’s, following in the footsteps of the Mennonites, the Brudehof , and Benedict (re fleeing persecution for one’s faith whilst living up to the biblical exhortation that we be as a city on a hill).

    You may be interested in the work of the TCE (Traditional Church of England) who, though tiny, is seeking to preserve the beauty of the bible-based, historic Anglican way.

    As a former Seventh Day Adventist who, after 21 years, exited that denomination and took my first very tentative steps back into the Anglican fold four years ago now, I take from that faith tradition the concept that at some point in near history, as persons of Christian faith, we will need to seek refuge within a community of faith; as a source of mutual support, preserving the faith, keeping clear of persecution while at the same time presenting a serious, authentic living, time-proven alternative to a thirsting, searching world. I believe God has led me back to Anglicanism (a difficult transition from a high-demand denomination such as SDA’ism) and here I have come face to face with Christ in faith and assurance for the first time in my life.

    You may be interested in these blogs (from the feminine perspective)


    You are not alone in perceiving the things you perceive and experiencing the myriad of feelings you are experiencing. many of us are witness to the Huxleyan picture unfolding before us as the mass media, intelegencia, overwhelming majority of the churches – all of them – and most people either embrace this ‘Brave New World’ with open arms, all too glad to see the destruction of the remissive, measured, faith-based civil society of our grandparents’ generation, or ‘dumbed down’ to the extent that they are unable to see, or unwilling to acknowledge what is going on around them. If only we could have the benefits of modern medicine and public health but with a society that valued faith and centred around said faith. Such faith would reach out, as did Christ whilst on Earth) to those in need (without reducing said faith to just another social service) restoring eternal as well as temporal hope.

    1. Sarah, I meant to reply to this some time ago. Thanks much for the links which I have and will investigate. It is always good to connect to faithful Anglicans all over the world – so it’s nice to “meet” you!

      Our times are challenging but I do believe that there will be a better day on the other side. It may not arrive for centuries however.

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